What we know is that 10 years have passed and $10b has been spent. What went wrong, and pretty much what is essentially wrong with the world, is that “America” didn’t spend it to train an “Iraqi” military. A small segment of America planned executed and continues to manage this war, including a small segment of our military, at the expense of the rest of the country and armed forces. And the “Iraqi” military is also not representative of the will of the general population of Iraq, if you can consider it even a country anymore after a decade of genocide-scale devastation.

Any confusion over Iraq stems from the confusion over whether America is a functioning democracy first and foremost. The facts indicate it’s not. And Iraq is a colony. The rest is just semantics.

1) Hitler’s extraordinary rise to power was in fact facilitated — and eventually financed — by the British and American political classes during the decade following World War I. source: http://www.amazon.com/Conjuring-Hitler-Guido-Giacomo-Preparata/dp/074532181X

2) They did this by turning a blind eye to “Mefo Bills”, a trick the German Central Bank president used to both print unlimited currency and rearm without technically breaking the Treaty of Versailles, fiat currency on crack. source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mefo_bills

3) The first director of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and chairman of the Bank of Manhattan along with his brother located in Germany were directors of this shell company facilitating the rearmament of Germany, as well as a director of the Ford Motor company. source: http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/chapter_07.htm

The American board members were not placed on trial at Nuremburg and the German Central Banker who managed the scheme lived to the ripe age of 93 before dying in 1970. I think he was also a godfather to the children of the director of the British Central Bank or comparable financial leader but couldn’t find the source right now, should be in the first book referenced. Point is they belonged to an established social group, or CLASS.

TL/DR: Q) How could Germany, in a span of 80 years (1918-2000s), lose a World War, get back in shape enough to start another one (in 20 years only), lose it again and then become one of the wealthiest country?

A) A global cabal of financiers coordinated Germany’s rearmament free of oversight or economic restraint in order to profit from another world war and eventual rebuilding.

Let Shame Be Their Punishment

Hey there, military vet who watched 9/11 unfold from a barracks here, thought I’d be the best responder to your bullshit:

1) can’t fathom? yes, as a veteran and current resident of downtown Manhattan yes I can 2) no idea how modern warfare works? information acquired through physical duress has been long discredited, Napolean has a good quote about the subject. You know Napoleon right, one of the founders of modern warfare AND intel? 3) waterboarding compared to beheadings rape slavery etc? Hello Strawman nice for you to show up to the discussion 4) easy to badmouth one of the most secretive paramilitary orgs on the planet? If you mean the once a decade chance we get anything remotely critical and even then heavily redacted then yes, it’s easy to smell the shit storm when they occasionally lift the lid 5) no, many different commenters disagree with you, public ignorance create strange bedfellows 6) started by Wall St lawyers, the CIA has always been about “American Interests” ie corp profit over the security of the nation as a whole. A citizen’s protection and foreign markets/resources are not interchangeable.

TL/DR: Ad hominem and strawman arguments aside, I strongly disagree with your equating the CIA’s well documented mission of foreign aggression for corp profiteering as necessary or even helpful towards the security of the average American.

You know all those sweet ass peasant bitches you’ve been fucking in your meadows and cobble stone streets and beaches of Italy and the basic carefree life with your numerous religious holidays and pilgrimages and general bacchanalia and the free way which people did pretty much whatever they wanted before nation states itemized every single human being alive with a serial number to track and tax them while those fancy guys painted naked fat women for rich people and the church fags?

Now we all work so much we only have time to view the paintings. And the women aren’t just fat, they also shit in each other’s mouths.

Take me with you boy TAKE ME BACK WITH YOOUUUU!!!

Can’t we look at this from another angle and notice the semantic bias? Our technology is advancing to the point that we can create complexity that approaches (in the foreseeable future) the complexity of the world in which we live. We call our technology “simulations” and the world in which we live “physical.”

But instead of describing the physical as a simulation, what if we’re merely in the process of creating life? It’s like looking through a telescope through the wrong end and calling it a microscope. The “simulation theory” is just the approach of the singularity, after which once you’re able to create life then yes the technological and physical worlds merge.

In other words the “simulation theory” is just intelligent design repackaged with contemporary language, probably with the same baggage and metaphysical unanswerable questions that religious scholars have been debating since the beginning of philosophy.

Nothing new except the translation…

i think the words simulation creation God science metaphysics etc are all going to get blurry in he near future. Anthropologists might look back at our “primitive” religions and remark that we were able to conceptualizer intelligent design from a benevolent creator before we were able to create life ourself, which in their future world might be the foundation of their religious belief. So yeah our conceptions of life and God are about to get an overhaul within the next 100 yrs I would imagine, just as the mechanistic deity who set the world in motion as a clock maker led the spirit of the enlightenment

black guy here no prob while you went potty I gave yo girl the d call it even

and have her call me them white girls appreciate a brother

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saac54ACB9M

This thread is so fucking depressing because browsing the net seems inherently an anti social activity no matter how much karma or online culture we cultivate, like asking someone what’s their record for masterbating in one day…and yet I can’t.stop.masterbating.reading.

the number is 12

US foreign policy only fails like a fox. Isn’t it curious that we created the conditions for the deterioration of Iraq and the growth of ISIS, and now we’re using that as a justification to continue military involvement in the region? How much have private corps made off this war so far? Where’s the investigative report on global oil firms, including Chinese, making a killing off Iraq. Where’s the respect for the Iraqi genocide we’ve caused: over half their middle class become a diaspora and at least one twentieth of their population, not to mention a shit ton of their cultural artifacts and almost all of their intellectuals, destroyed within the last decade? -where is the acknowledgement of reality?

I live in New York City and have done some political organizing in the past. More importantly, I know a lot of people who are a lot better at it and more connected than me. Let’s take all the anger many of us feel for inheriting these endless wars of aggression and channel it into a single issue campaign for 2016. No more public wars for private profit. Take account of the war profiteers, all the money that’s been spent and where it’s gone. Cut the war machine at the roots and redirect those funds domestically to stop this draining of the national treasury. Police aggression? Military link. War on drugs? Military link. Crony capitalism? Military link. Federal overtaking states rights? Military link. War is the biggest injustice waged at home and abroad, let’s make that the theme of 2016. Upvote this comment and direct msg me if you’d like more involvement. We can have a grassroots org planning within our own subreddit within the week. Most people are anti war. Most people think we can’t do anything. Just takes a first step…

we need to stop waging wars of empire

[–]shazzbarbaric 1 point 3 years ago
“the people” and “you people” is over simplifying. war decimates society at every level. this hasn’t been ongoing since the mongols razed baghdad. Iraq was one of the more modern middle eastern states before the US sanctions and subsequent invasion. read a fucking book. europeans aren’t the bad guys. the small minority of crony capitalists that have taken control of nation states and make money off these perpetual wars are the bad guys. less than 1% of US and Euro population. we all suffer for their greed and when you talk about “middle east” and mongols and middle ages and these huge generalities, it’s like you’re defending murder with a conversation about human nature when we’re dealing with a specific murder in front of us. Iraq has been through a genocide directly caused by the actions of the United States. this is a fact however you define genocide. it’s not about the iraqi people, it’s about what specific crimes against humanity have been done to them. groups like ISIS are not created in a vacuum, they are the symptom (not the cause) of war that leaves no other org capable of surviving in such a violent society other than a sociopathic one. this ensures that the foreigners will have a pretext to stay in the country as long as they like. not sure where you’re not following here…let me know and I can explain further. I’m not frustrated, I’m right.

My questions to you are 1) Do these make up a large portion of the prison population, 2) has it been documented that they’re mostly targeted for racial and income reasons (how you look and where you live), and 3) in light of the previous, do they deserve to be raped according to your morality?

Based on what I’ve learned about the nature of who’s in prison and why they’re there, including my own short time spent in Florida for $25 worth of marijuana possession, I do believe they are victims. And I think most well adjusted human beings in the modern age would abhor rape as a form of retributed justice, explicitly or implied.

[–]shazzbarbaric 1 point 3 years ago
fuck me a productive discussion on the internet I agree nice to hear some common sense is shared out there

I own the 9/11 commission report. The gov didn’t even want to establish the commission until pressured by the 9/11 Family Steering Committee, who arguably have the most vested interest in “truth” whether this is the accepted conspiracy or another. There’s a lot of openly acknowledged relevant criticism on how they could have done a better investigation. You’re going to say that’s false? Don’t pick on whether I can distinguish between the white house or pentagon or bait people into stupid arguments over factual data they both 1) don’t have full access to or 2) aren’t qualified to interpret. Let’s stick to one little thing I said, since everything was without merit. The investigation was faulty. And, uhm, maybe you’re being disingenuous in your rhetoric.

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[–]shazzbarbaric 1 point 3 years ago

I have the recruitment document when I was in Occupy where the paid organizers were looking for “leadership” they could send on retreats, I’m including it in a book I’m working on from my time there. It’s very clear what they intended: to recruit from the movement, take them on paid retreats, and create a sophisticated network of agitators they can dispatch when there’s a crisis that they can capitalize on. I know some of the people who were recruited, have firsthand accounts of the training, and know they’re now organizing for BLM. I only am speaking on what I’ve seen. But yeah, tinfoil.

[–]shazzbarbaric 1 point 2 years ago